P1 24h du Mans 2022 Talk

Discussion in 'Race Information' started by Markus Broch, May 29, 2022.

  1. Markus Broch

    Markus Broch Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Admin Post
    Discuss any race specific topics here (or open your own thread).
     
  2. Cedric Niehues

    Cedric Niehues New Member

    Ist noch platz in der GTE ? für ein Auto?
     
  3. Gerhard Lindauer

    Gerhard Lindauer Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

  4. James Lyke

    James Lyke Active Member

    @Simon Christmann Could you please remove our GTE entry #101. Livery for the #1 LMP2 is submitted.
     
  5. David Tepper

    David Tepper Active Member

    TireTime: time to change two tires, time to change four tires, random delay on any tire, concurrent tire changes (0.0=separate, 1.0=concurrent)
    DriverTime: time to change driver, random delay, extra delay if vehicle is damaged, concurrent driver changes (0.0=separate, 1.0=concurrent)
    • LMP2 / DPi
      • TireTime=(17,37,2,0)
      • DriverTime=(20,1.5,2.5,1.0)
    • GTE
      • TireTime=(17,37,2,0)
      • DriverTime=(20,1.5,2.5,1.0)

        will the times like this?
        times from last year!
     
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  6. Jorge Fernandez M

    Jorge Fernandez M Member P1 gaming e.V.

    I guess in this race ¿will we use the same tyre model ?
     
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  7. Gerhard Lindauer

    Gerhard Lindauer Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Admin Post
    Why not use the new one? Time enough for any setup changes...
     
  8. Jorge Fernandez M

    Jorge Fernandez M Member P1 gaming e.V.

    I will agree your decision but if it is change for the new tyre model i would like know it
     
  9. Bert Knops

    Bert Knops New Member

    The setup or the driving is not a problem, but drafting is completely broken with the new build. In my opinion, there is little point even having this race (at Le Mans, of all places) with such a huge bug.

    I don't know if a fix will be released before the race, I didn't find a word about this on S397 forums or Discord. If there's no guarantee it will be fixed in time, I suggest we revert to the old build.

    Edit: to elaborate on the drafting, it basically doesn't work until you're almost on the bumper of the guy in front. Then you both seem to have an increase in speed. Dirty air also doesn't seem to exist any more. I wasn't able to pass a guy who was 4 seconds off my pace all the way from Tertre Rouge to Indianapolis.
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2022
  10. Alex Woitala

    Alex Woitala Administrator Staff Member P1GTS Organizer P1 gaming e.V.

    Admin Post
    We'll have a look into it. I assume it's mod related and came with the physics update. But ofc we want to see slipstream battles.

    First we need to validate your input and have to check if's the same for all GTE's. Then we can try to find a workaround.
     
  11. Bert Knops

    Bert Knops New Member

    Thank you. I didn't have replays on yesterday. I will turn them on when I go drive this evening.
     
  12. Mario Tump

    Mario Tump Member

    I think we'll have another problem. Due to the Update the Ferrari is actually so fast it could even start in LMP 2.5 Class. The only car with no increased Drag. We are talking about easy 1 sec per lap. With a little bit of Setup work it is even more... on the straight it is 4 km/h faster. Are you going to BOP the Ferrari with some KG?
     
  13. Patrick Schindler

    Patrick Schindler New Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Well, I think you are exaggerating a bit.
    Cause when you compare the Top Speed before/after the update you can see nearly the same spread:

    Now: (all with quali Mapping and rear wing 1)

    Ferrari 298
    Corvette 297
    Porsche 296
    Aston 295
    BMW 295

    Old physics:

    Corvette 299
    Ferrari 297
    Porsche 297
    BMW 297
    Aston 296

    So the spread is the same but yeah… Ferrari is now the fastest. But not 4 km/h to all cars like you told. ;)
     
  14. Bert Knops

    Bert Knops New Member

    These numbers don't mean much without uploading the respective setups :p
     
  15. Mario Tump

    Mario Tump Member

    So i think we are going into data now.
    When i compare Aston vs Ferrari, the Aston lose 2/10 ish EVERY straight. There is definetly something off in the BOP. The Drag reduction is huge in the range of 200-250 km/h. Due to the Engine curve of the Ferrari it flattens out at the end of the straight, but at the breaking point we lose 2/10. I'm getting old i guess, so i can't full throttle on the straight anymore. I drove the Ferrari and when i can drive 3:49:8 laps twice in a row, soft tires, full fuel, better tire wear and after 5 laps of getting used to the car, i have to laugh.

    You got lucky with the Ferrari pick after the BOP change but it's fine. I just wanted to point this out, that the Ferrari is to damn fast.

    edit: When we are allowed to switch the cars, i would change the car in the blink of an eye ;)
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2022
  16. David Trueba

    David Trueba Member

    Hi guys,

    Any news about the race? If we're going to keep this as it is, I don't know if it's worth spending any time preparing for it. I think it´s urgent to solve this situation, if we´re going to change the build or... because BOP, sleepstream, dirty air... Nothing is in the right place now and the race is drawing near.
     
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  17. David Trueba

    David Trueba Member

    Nothing?
     
  18. Philippe Falcao

    Philippe Falcao New Member

    two drivers dropped out, we are currently looking for two drivers for the Ferrari Gte
     
  19. Marc Veit

    Marc Veit Member

    If you seek a answer you have to go and talk on teamspeak with them or open a ticket with a admin because the chance you get a answer here is literally 0
     
  20. Simon Christmann

    Simon Christmann Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Admin Post
    For cars with the new sounds using an older build is no option (expect you want to drive a silent car)
    We are trying to fix slipstream and dirty air
    We won't apply a BOP as far as we know the mod contains the physics of the Virtual Le Mans 24
     
    Gerhard Lindauer likes this.
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