You were parked on the run off area 1 meter wide and you would have been hit and why was only the other guy have a right to complain? I had to come past your picnic too., get that straight.

 

You were parked on the run off area 1 meter wide and you would have been hit and why was it only the other guy had a right to complain? I had to come past your picnic too., get that straight

As I say, if this is you attitude to practice sessions, what about pre-race practice, or even warm-up, why not ignore racing rules all the time.

 

You told about "serious driving"!? Absolute serious driving would be furthermore, not to ESC while driving, but driving into pits or hold beside the track. Real serious driving is than, that cars stand some minutes beside the track and causing yellow flags. How serious do we want to go? Yes, it maybe wasn´t necessary to do so, but don´t forget that it can happen, that someone can´t do anything because of freeze or something and can´t solve the situation very fast; but that´s not the thing here, i know.
I can´t understand, why don´t only pass and ignore it, instead of offend others because of trivia. We are an friendly global community since 2014, from pro to gentleman and maybe someone on the way to it. I think for an really pro grid you had to pay, here is driving for "everyone".
But be sure, -if P1 see´s some wreckers or crashkids or drivers really unable to drive, they will kick them and disallow them to start. I had seen a lot of endurance races in real with lot of issues, at least Bathurst with 16 SC, so please don´t expect an simrace without some!

 

http://www.p1-gaming.de/index.php?threads/introduce-yourself.4/page-4#post-5748

Read and absorb, if complaining about bad driving etiquette is trivia, then you win.

 

That´s completely unobjective! You are doing as there were cars weaving across the track and drove against direction. Yes, discipline isn´t as high as possible or should, but if it would be so bad, P1 would not grow this way last races. Not driving etiquette is trivia, but to stand beside track is nothing what can´t happen in real racing and what is really reprehensible, even it is only simulation here.

 

And now? is that the license to offend others?

 

This will be my last word on the subject, Dennis and Rene, your own members have said worse.

 

Wow, entry list was full really quick for this one. But signup was open at exactly 12am, so good job from admins for holding their word on time. 40 places were open but taken in about an hours time.

I guess Ron Dennis was right when he said: "To finish first, you first have to sign up in time."

 

In every team there is different set of drivers. Its five different teams, whats more, those teams are not "one organization" as others have like "Team1", "Team2", "Team3" etc.
So I dont know what unfair is here.


@Ivor
If You really want to race , I can speak with the teams I signup and I would be willing to give You spot in our line-up.

 

So you are a legitimate team manager of 5 different teams? To me it looked like you were signing up other teams using your membership.

 

Jon, of course i know all thise guys. Also remember that money that i put on P1 gaming is allowing us to drive here. For servers.

As I saw that 'members' have that privilage of signing up earlier, I made a transfer. WHY? To avoid that what is going on here now.

To reminde everyone, i wrote about it after RAtlanta, that why we make new entry again, and that top teams from RAtlanta could be missing from RAmerica grid.

50Euros. Is it big ? We have 5 races left. 10 euro per race and i have 'good' sleep , knowing that i will be there on grid next time.

 

Forsure, your membership and you have the right to sign in your team before registry opens. But my point is; you also signed other teams using your membership. Whether you know these drivers or not is not important is it? Important detail here is these drivers were not in your team before this race! When I look at your conversation with these drivers (in FB) it is obvious you know them but they have their own teams, or they just formed up new teams because you offered them an early entry but they are not in your team.

Don't get me wrong I actually very much appreciate you bringing new drivers and teams but providing an early registry for them is abusing your membership privilege which I have never seen any other team manager did in the last 2.5 yrs I have involved in 24H series. That was my point, not the amount of membership money or who you know or not.

Knowing your fellow countrymen drivers is one thing but they actually being from your team is another.

 

I really don't want to name such things, but I'm really not sure how #011 signed up in the week prior to the official non-member sign up, since I doubt that the admins don't update member status in the forums (got mine on the evening at which my application was sent in)^^

Either it was a mistake by the admins who accidentally opened sign up early for a short period of time (which again I doubt) or someone with member status signed them up which isn't fair imo.

 

Ah ok, then they really deserve it, being the only ones to find the easteregg

 

Please also think about limit it per Teamname (ie. ExampleSimRacing I, Example SimRacing 2, etc.)
I suggest a limit of 2 per class and 3 overall

 

Ivor, your vita seems like you are one of the greatest drivers. And as we know from multiple real drivers, you should be an a**hole to safe best options for yourself and has to rebuke all others, you don´t need any friends on your way to championchip.
Maybe this works on iracing, maybe on VEC, since 2015, for now 13 races, mostly here living friendly coexist, over all respect each other and don´t bark around because of little mistakes.
But as we know, you´re already known for "telling it like it is" and receiving an 3 month banning, as we see, it´s looks like your aggressiv and arrogant mentality and i hope, P1 drivers would be protect from those attacks. No one should be fearful, to make an mistake. And we didn´t have an problem without you.

I must say, if i had membership, i had signed up all our cars for sure with privileges! To sign up with different team names maybe an aspect of "beneficial takeover", but we didn´t know. For us it´s an difficult thing, we have had over 20 different drivers over the years in our rF2-team and i will be sad if we have to sort out. But to be objective, -what else should P1 do, to make it good for all...

 

@Rene von Dobschuetz @Jon Uyan
I dont know what would that change if I would put all those 4 teams that I sign up for under name "Adakar motorsport 1 / 2 / 3 / 4". What would that change ?

BUT
I understand fully and respect Your comments about "signing up Your fellow countrymen", thats why I propose , for next round the reduction of the "closed sign-up entrys" for paid members to only two (from four that is right now).
But that should be then reduced to TWO entry for ALL guys , after the entry list is open to public.

One member = maximum two entry per race.

 

great respect to your statement @Adam Karkuszewski but i think the reduction of entry for 2 teams/cars in the public entry shedule only for nonmember, the sign in for members will be disabled to give an better and fair chance to other teamleader. If the entrylist after sign in timeline not full, i think, that any teamleader allowed to sign in an 3rd raceteam etc.

 

Updated on 03.03.2018 - WSR and WSVR got merged and have now instead of 8 teams only 7 teams in total, so also what would happen has changed and my recommendation has changed and more teams added

Okay let's do a fact check here, let's see what would happen if you restrict to 2 or 3 or 4 entries per team/etc.:

For the moment this is how the signups look like:
(no this is not meant as shame and name, all of these teams have drivers in the place and I'm 99% confident that they didn't intend any offensive behavior)

1. WSR = 7 Teams
2. Rennsimulanten = 7 Teams
3. RevolutionSimRacing = 5 Teams
4. SpeedyMite Racing = 4 Teams
5. Teams of @Adam Karkuszewski = 4 Teams
6. VMADS = 2 Teams
7. SHQM = 2 Teams
8. SimHQ Motorsports = 2 Teams
9. VorteX Motorsports = 2 Teams
10. Sonic SRC Radio = 2 Teams
11. Me Myself and I alone = 2 Teams
12. Everyone else has only 1 team afaik

Some notes:
- The 5 first "organizations" with most teams occupy more than 50% of the entries!
- At the moment we have 5 Teams on the reserve list

This is what would happen if you would enforce the max. 2 entries per team/etc.:

• New free spots: 17 Teams

This is what would happen if you would enforce the max. 3 entries per team/etc.:

• New free spots: 12 Teams

This is what would happen if you would enforce the max. 4 entries per team/etc.:

• New free spots: 7 Teams

[Updated]
As of that I recommend to reduce to reduce max. entry per team/etc.. I also suggest to cap GT3s to a max. of 30 Teams, to have a better class balance. As of that the max. entry per team/etc. should be 3, but a maximum of 2 in one class (max. 2 GT3s or max. 2 TRGs per team).
After 2 weeks of open signups, there should be the possibility to add a 4th team in any class (so ie. 3 GT3s and 1 TRG or 3 TRGs and 1 GT3, but NOT 4 TRGs or 4 GT3s).

Alternatively P1 should consider doing 2 lobbies, but this would be a lot more expensive and a lot more effort and I totally understand and support them if they don't wanna do it!
I rather would like to have 100 teams on 1 track (only taking longer tracks then ofc), but this is just not possible with rF2 at the moment.

I like that idea, if it is not full after a certain time, you can add a 4th team

I know that I never heard any complaints about any of your drivers ...
But you can't just make exceptions for one team ... and there needs to be a solution
Can't be that the first 4 teams are occupying nearly 50% of the field ... if it would be for me, I would like to see 100 teams driving in the same server at the same time, but it is just not possible yet and probably never will (my guess is, we will see max of 70 in the next 3 years, as several shooters get into troubles with more than 70)